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Male
Fr. United Kingdom
Topic: Blackmail!


I don't know if this has been discussed before, but I am concerned about blackmail threats that two of my laowai friends have been receiving, and we wonder what can be done to stop them. What is happening is that certain disreputable persons are acquiring the phone numbers of foreigners living here and falsely accusing them of crimes (usually rape). They then demand money, or threaten to call the police. Some laowais are paying up, because they are scared of what might happen if the police are involved.
Do any WOX members have personal experience of this? Can anybody advise what should be done if any of us start receiving these calls?
28 Aug 2012
Female
Fr. Ireland
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I have no experience of that, and have never even heard of it before, but if I was in that situation, I would try to tape the caller (if possible) and then go directly to the police myself. Pre-emptive strike the bastards.
28 Aug 2012


Male
Fr. Mexico
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Go directly to the police station and just leave them the sim card, they will immediately track the bastard and make him pay.

In other hand, if you want him to suffer a bit more I might know a way... just send me a private message.
28 Aug 2012


Male
Fr. United States
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I would be a little worrisome about taking the sim card directly to the police. Taping a copy of it might be better. There IS a chance that the people doing this dastardly scam COULD have paid off the police.
You could also go to the police with just the phone number and tell them that you were threatened and falsely accused(if you do this, make sure you hire a lawyer. Also make sure that several people know what day/time you're going to the police...just in case).
28 Aug 2012


Male
Fr. Germany
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Don't do anything. Get a lawyer...
28 Aug 2012


Female
Fr. China
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do your friends know who those disreputable persons are ?...if you want to stop them doing that , maybe just change a new sim card for now..if they keep blackmailing..yeah, i agree to find a lawyer..and get PSB involved through lawyer..
28 Aug 2012


Female
Fr. Australia
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Seriously? This isn't blackmail, this is just stupid. Any laowai that actually pays money is an idiot and deserves to be scammed.

Accuse them back, scream at them and tell them they owe you money.

Or you can be boring/normal and just block the number on your phone.
28 Aug 2012


Female
Fr. Ireland
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Actually, are they speaking English or Chinese?
Just curious!
28 Aug 2012


Male
Fr. Solomon Islands
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Similar situation, but in a face-to-face situation.

Inwardly I was laughing at the couple trying their **** on me.

Got worried when they came to my place with a cop (and a couple of beefy Northerner friends), and insisted I let them into my apartment. Topped out in the worry stakes, when I pepper sprayed them all.

Next day the clown called me (got my number from the complex's bao an) and called a truce.

And he's a neighbour.

The **** people think they can get away with. Deplorable.
28 Aug 2012


Male
Fr. New Zealand
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I have heard of chinese people being blackmailed by other chinese people.

what happens in a lot of cases is that, because they want a lot of money, they would just give you the bank account to deposit the money.

give the bank account to the police, end of story.
some people are just too stupid to be criminals.
28 Aug 2012


Male
Fr. Mexico
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@ Rawr scream them back and tell them they owe you money? lol

remember these bastards are all cowards who feed up from your fear so this is probably the best solution to scare them away.
28 Aug 2012


Male
Fr. New Zealand
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im guessing the laowais that did pay, are either:

- overstaying; or
- working without a working visa

In both of those cases, you don't want the police to be involved, cause they would round you up to.

So my guess is that some teacher is being blackmailed by his student or colleague who has found out he has no working visa and might get deported.

in that case, you are a bit screwed....
especially if he is smart enough not to give out his bank account. lol
28 Aug 2012


Male
Fr. New Zealand
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I few more details would make this situation more understandable.

Which laowai are paying up? How/who did they pay? Why did they not consider contacting the police? What exactly has been threatened to your friends? Are they jointly accused?

My assumption is China is the same as the rest of the world, the police need proof before acting on rape claims. And anyone falsely making such a crime would be punished.

Given the Beijing rape drama's from a few months ago, this is a very touchy subject so extreme caution should be taken.
28 Aug 2012


Male
Fr. Germany
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I wouldn't take rawr's advice, cause you might get beaten down by an angry mob...

These days one person just has to yell rape and point at a laowei and the dude better run for his life...
28 Aug 2012


Male
Fr. Cocos (Keeling) Islands
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Depending on the circumstances these victims are in, such as whether they are in the country without a visa, etc. - I think I would first contact my Embassy and advise them of the threats and all the details of what I know about who and how the threats were made, etc. Then I would follow the advice of the Consulate. Regardless of the particular situation, the Embassy should be notified about stuff like this, and if it should turn uglier than it is already, I would want the big guns behind me, not just some Chinese lawyer - and if the police are even remotely involved in either protecting these jerks or covering this up because they are embarrassed by it, the lawyer is more or less useless anyway.
Although just this year, the national law requires evidence of a crime, it is still not the local method of law enforcement. There need not be ANY evidence, only a confession. They have their ways of getting that even from the innocent.
In my opinion, it is easier to start simple... change the phone number, report the incident to the Embassy, and hope for the best. Confrontation or attempting to negotiate with them is certain to make the situation worse.
28 Aug 2012


Male
Fr. Cocos (Keeling) Islands
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@petebeatstreet - You said "similar situation". That is very vague about what aspect of this 'blackmail-rape threat" is the same as your situation. Personally, I think your pepper spraying them was incredibly risky behavior, because 1. Maybe it did scare them away, but it could have gone the other way just as easily and you are left with a knife in your throat. 2. You may think you have a truce, but I am sorry to say, I think that is very unlikely. They are not now your friends because you got the better of them once. You are an outsider in a community of Chinese and even the people around you who you think are friends, will turn away from you if they are faced with taking sides between you and even another stranger who is Chinese.
If I were in your situation, I would very much be in the worry department, as you put it. It is not over yet. The tactic is to make you think it is over and you have a truce. They are waiting and watching for an opportunity.
28 Aug 2012


Male
Fr. Hungary
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@taodog

I wouldn't believe what @pete wrote. In my opinion he tends to exaggerate quite a bit. Pepper spraying a cop? Yeah, right.
29 Aug 2012


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