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Male
Fr. United States
Topic: Dirty, dirty, dirty Xiamen
Some readers might have seen my comment in reply to Xiamen Tourist Board's competition for new logo/advert for the city.

At 0830 this morning I went for a walk around my apartment block gardens. Within one minute I find one of my neighbours holding her son while he craps on the pathway and then I notice their TWELVE YEAR OLD daughter is squatting on the grass a few feet away having a pee....
THEY ARE 50 FEET AWAY FROM THEIR FRONT DOOR FOR CHRIST'S SAKE!!!

Sorry but what is wrong with people here?

China in the 21st. century?? Xiamen the beautiful tourist destination??? Get real. Half the population are still living in the 17th. Century and they are dragging the place down faster than the city authorities can improve matters.
03 Apr 2012
Male
Fr. United States
Agree, but very difficult to change Chinese tradition. I see the same near mine. These people probably just don't care about the image of the city. Think only about themselves. a little sad.
03 Apr 2012


Male
Fr. United States
Hi rpkbrt, the big problem as far as I can see is that everyone just keeps saying "difficult to change" but doing absolutely nothing about it. Singapore managed to change EXACTLY this sort of situation in the space of five years - I was there and witnessed it. There was a huge difference after only a few months once the government decided to clean up - then the country truly began to develop. Here there is simply no interest in even starting to improve matters.
03 Apr 2012


Male
Fr. United States
Yup true. Has to start somewhere. I also saw a big difference in Hong Kong on a recent visit there. Cleaner, and the people are polite too! Wow, I heard excuse me in crowds!
03 Apr 2012


Male
Fr. Germany
I think it is a lot worse to arrive on GuLangYu and the first thing you see is KFC and McDonalds...
03 Apr 2012


Male
Fr. United States
Carlito, are you seriously suggesting that arriving somewhere and finding a fast food outlet is worse than having people urinating and Feds sting in public on the streets???
That is the sign of a VERY strange mind...
03 Apr 2012


Male
Fr. United States
Or even defacating in the streets! Auto spelling is worse than useless....
03 Apr 2012


Female
Fr. Philippines
They make rules to ban dogs from entering the parks but first they should educate these people who just poop, pee, puke and spit everywhere they want to and even throw nappies & diapers with loads of sh*t! Terrible!
03 Apr 2012


Male
Fr. United States
Two weeks ago my wife and I were sitting in a very nice Thai restaurant on the waterside when two dogs appeared outside the window fighting over a fully loaded diaper. The winner then sat outside the window and ate the lot while we tried hard to concentrate on an expensive meal. This place is truly disgusting at times. I am told it is impossible for ordinary people here to talk to the Mayor or anyone in power. Is that correct???
03 Apr 2012


Male
Fr. United States
Two weeks ago my wife and I were sitting in a very nice Thai restaurant on the waterside when two dogs appeared outside the window fighting over a fully loaded diaper. The winner then sat outside the window and ate the lot while we tried hard to concentrate on an expensive meal. This place is truly disgusting at times. I am told it is impossible for ordinary people here to talk to the Mayor or anyone in power. Is that correct???
03 Apr 2012


Male
Fr. China
Out of sight,out of mind,many here already get used to this,arent we?

Sometimes,the urine from children can be good for the growth of grass,at least they didnt take a bump there,right?

Please allow me to explain more details for you followingly first before it's too late.

Notice:Dont walk or sit on the grass since there might be moldy **** lying here and there.The government accept it by saving troubles to install a notice board to warn ppl not to trample on the grass in the parks.

China is so large with such a huge population while not enough toilets are available everywhere.Dude,i swear that when those children grow up,they wont do this childish deed frequently,unless they really cant hold on for a more second,like driving a car long way till the slip-road.
03 Apr 2012


Male
Fr. Hungary
@ teenchen

I have seen grown men pissing by a wall when the free public toilet was A FEW STEPS away! So yeah, grown men still do that!

I have also soon mothers holding their kids to pee A FEW STEPS away from a free public toilet!

And no, the toilet was not full, not dirty, not closed...
03 Apr 2012


Male
Fr. United States
@teenchen

I don't think anyone gets used to this situation really, I have been here for almost 12 years and it seems to be getting worse not better.
You don't have to explain details for me thanks.

The excuse is always "China is too large with such a huge population" and after a while it is obvious that this is actually just because no-one can be bothered to try to improve matters.
There is no excuse for the disgusting behaviour observed here on a daily basis. Singapore is an island like Xiamen. It's government simply took control and told the people what is and what is not acceptable then put a system in place to enforce the corect behaviour. The result is an island that everyone who lives there is very proud of. A lot of the population in Singapore is Chinese origin and they have managed, as in Hong Kong, to learn to behave in a civilised hygenic manner.
03 Apr 2012


Male
Fr. Australia
Seeing kids pooping and peeing outside is disgusting enough but don't forget the parents who let their kids pee inside shopping centres wherever they find a corner. Some don't even try to find a corner!
03 Apr 2012


Male
Fr. China
Oh,this reminds me of my childhood when i peed at the corner of someone's house,the landlord would shout at me loudly and even run out and chased after me with their scissors,and i was really scared to death.(At that age of my time,there were not many free public washing rooms,not to mention KFC or McDonalds,so i am thinking those parents who allow their kids to pee everywhere are possibly the same generation of mine.)
03 Apr 2012


Male
Fr. China
@xiamen602,it is funny to find that you could tell how old exactly that little girl is and how far the crimme scene is away from the front door,cheers

And not every chinese could afford to emigrate abroad to HK or Singapore.You just have lots prejudice
03 Apr 2012


Male
Fr. Germany
Maybe it's not that bad to me, because I'm from a country where I had to watch dogs taking a crap every day on my way to school.

I also don't like it, don't get me wrong, but sometimes there is not an option. Just out of curiosity, who has children?
I do and from experience I know, that 5 minutes walking to a toilet will result in a dirty pants. Maybe the difference is, that I did tell my son that it is not good etc., while maybe some Chinese parents do not care. But this will only change when strictly enforced.

I would like them to do more in the Kindergarten as well. Not only this, but also following traffic rules etc., but it is very difficult, because as soon as kids et picked up, grandparents force their grandchildren to walk across a red light.

Girls taking a pee in public was a shock for my Chinese wife. That is not possible in her hometown. So maybe that is the modern China and not the traditional one. lol
03 Apr 2012


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