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Male
Fr. New Zealand
Topic: Chinese children peeing in public
I am sure this topic has been talked about before, but seriously WTF?!?!?!

How can so many chinese kids just pee everywhere? I mean, seriously everywhere.

Yes, Yes, some are going to say, get used to it, this is just how it is, etc. But this is disgusting and un-hygienic and pisses me off. So this thread is not created with only the intention of ranting, but I want your opinion as to the "cause" of this behaviour.

What do you think is the reason for this being such a "normal" thing in china?

And for people who are going to say, this is not normal, This is the rant part of my post.

In the same day, I see 3 incidents that shocked me. Was on Zhenhai lu walking past a hospital/clinic looking place, which im sure has toilets. Then I see a girl who might be as old as 4-5, just walk out casually to the side of the road, squat, do her business, then walk back into that clinic/hospital looking place. WTF? im sure there are toilets in there!!!

then, later in the day, was driving on the motorway. One lane was totally blocked. Why? because they stopped the car on the motorway, so that the kid could pee on the side of the road. The whole motorway was full of traffic because of them and the kid.

And finally, I was walking in SM2. This is indoors for god's sake. A grandfather is walking with his little grandson. There are meters away from the toilet. Then I see the grandkid just squating and doing his business. again, WTF?


And again, to people who are going to say this is not normal for chinese, in all 3 cases, no one tried to stop the kid. They were all in crowded places, but not one person tried to stop them.

So what is the source of all this behaviour? chinese culture? lack of education? communism? cultural revolution?
20 Aug 2012
Male
Fr. New Zealand
one more rant

One thing that gets me, is that a lot of chinese people are now looking down on a lot of other countries because china's economy is doing well, and china is all big and strong and mighty now, etc.

thats all good, it is true. your country deserves a lot of respect. im fine with that.

but even in the randomest poor places I have been into in south east asia or middle east, I didn't see children just peeing like this on the side of the road or inside a shopping mall, or on the subway, etc. (sometimes, its not just peeting. its more than that)

Something that is so so so BASIC.


And on a slightly relevant point, 70% of men using the toilets in the shopping malls or in the office block that I work in, dont even rinse their hands after using the toilet for either no. 1 or no.2 (I assume I dont need to elaborate on what the numbers stand for)

Of the 30% that do touch the water,2/3rd of them, dont even use soap. The fact that so many places don't even provide soap is still shocking to me. Now I carry around a hand sanitizer bottle with me everywhere I go.

I don't think im being a clean freak. I just see this as being a very basic thing.

lack of education is to be blamed?
20 Aug 2012


Male
Fr. Australia
Nobody wants to lose face probably, so non-intervention is the golden rule.

It takes a few ultra nationalists to take a holiday on a useless piece of rock in the middle of nowhere to get a reaction from many chinese. As recent events in the news can show. (btw, when rioters roll over japanese cars to make a point, why do they then use japanese technology to record it?)

Where can you get that hand sanitizer stuff?
20 Aug 2012


Male
Fr. New Zealand
Yeah, the whole rolling cars and destroying shops is stupid.

The japanese cars here are all chinese made anyway, with chinese owners, made by chinese workers. It's just chinese hurting chinese. lucky i bought a german car.

re the hand sanitizers, I see them on sale in watsons. Not sure if walmart has them. I use the Dettol brand. I am sure I have seen them in China. But last time I was in NZ, I actually went and bought like 20 little bottles and brought them back with me.
20 Aug 2012


Male
Fr. Philippines
inside sm2??? wow.

I understand most of 'uneducated' chinese regard this behavior, along with picking noses, releasing flatulence and belch in public, as 'normal' because nobody tells them otherwise. you have to ask a really popular person to endorse a well mannered, civilized behavior. maybe ask Hu Jintao or that really famous chinese hurdler, what's his name again? point is, these people won't stop doing what they're doing unless someone tells them off.

cultural revolution led them to severe poverty and starvation. they couldn't care less about personal space or hygiene then. I guess that explains their tolerance for that kind of behavior?
20 Aug 2012


Female
Fr. Ireland
I have been told by Chinese people that I asked about this(and I'm not saying I agree!) that they don't want to use toilets, because toilets have lots of germs etc, so peeing outside is much more sanitary.
Especially in hospitals, where there are lots of germs. I would imagine that kid was sent outside by her parents, because they don't want her to pick up a bug in the hospital. Kind of makes sense when you see some of the toilets, they really are disgusting.

Also, because Chinese people don't use nappies/diapers, children are used to going whenever they need to, and if that happens to be on a street, well that's fine.

As for the motorway thing - that's more "I don't care about anyone else, I can stop where I like". Same as all the other drivers and people out there, not bothered about the flow of cars or people behind them. Annoying, but unfortunately so common.
20 Aug 2012


Male
Fr. Antartica
I find it more disgusting that people urinate and defecate in toilets that use potable water while around one billion people in the world don't have access to clean drinking water.

http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/250x250/24045180.jpg

Compost toilets for the win!
20 Aug 2012


Male
Fr. United States
I use the buses quite abit. Can you imagine how disgusting the handrails are? YEs, as soon as I exit I use the hand sanitizer automatically. I searched for days trying to find this stuff and even Wal-mart does not have it. Geez! The only place I find it is at Watsons stores. You will have to search for it there a little, but its there. Small bottle too.
20 Aug 2012


Female
Fr. Philippines
It's pretty disgusting and one incident that I will never forget is when we went to Macau. Macau is a different territory but the people there are way different as you may have noticed. While we were inside the Venetian,there was this Chinese family, they were tourists and the parent just let her daughter pee on the hallway of the beautiful Venetian. We were so shocked that they just did it like they are used to back in their hometown. The guards came and apprehended the parent and they were showing their blank faces asking why they are stopping them from doing that?! They even tried to argue with them. You could just imagine the reaction of the guards and by the way the guards were foreigners. All we can say is WTF and we can't get over that scene for a long time! We didn't expect to witness that kind of incident in that beautiful place.

I couldn't agree more to what @freebird said.
20 Aug 2012


Female
Fr. China
the place i witnessed the most that parents encourged kids to pee is at the parks..around the trees and flowers...yeah, i agree with you guys that this is really disgusting thing!...it's the parents that need to be trained..not their kids...guess this will take really long time...
20 Aug 2012


Male
Fr. New Zealand
but then i dont understand this argument about

We are a very big country, with a big population, so things will take a very long time

but, i can go to poorer countries, and won't see that. And it's not like china was not in exsitence till 30 years ago, and just poof showed up out of no where and everyone needs to be trained up from stone age.

this is a governmental FAIL in education
family training, school education, cultural and hygiene values, etc
20 Aug 2012


Female
Fr. Ireland
I agree with that point.
The "it's a big country" thing is just a cop-out.
20 Aug 2012


Male
Fr. New Zealand
@alexynne

OMG, in the venetian. WTF??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

*CRIES*
20 Aug 2012


Male
Fr. Denmark
Recently inside SM1, I saw a father holding is boy (2-3 years old? idk) over the dustbin by the elevator for the kid to pee in said dustbin.

A couple of days later, another kid squatting and doing number 2 just outside the entrance. In this case the parents were thoughtful enough to put something for the kid to poo on, so it could be removed (thrown into the wastebasket?) later.

I know about the toilet training habits of China, but I don't understand them (and never will).
20 Aug 2012


Male
Fr. Germany
I like to put dog poo in brown bags, put them in front of peoples doors, and light them on fire!

Ich bin fast wie eine Taube, ich scheiss auf alles!
20 Aug 2012


Male
Fr. United States
Craziest incident I ever saw was Wal Mart on Zhong Shan Lu. A man brought his baby 3 year old to the trash can less than a meter away from fresh produce, positioned her, and let her 腹泻 all in the trash can(girl definitely was sick). A worker at Wal Mart working in the produce department saw her for about 2 seconds, and shrugged it off like one would shrug off any customer picking up any groceries. There was a bathroom about 15 meters away, maximum. It took the man about 2 minutes to position her correctly(and he got stuff on the floor too, which no one cleaned up in the entire time I was shopping).

I'm sorry I don't want dysentery, China.
20 Aug 2012


Female
Fr. American Samoa
I also have heard about "not using public restrooms because they are dirty." But then, who makes this restrooms dirty? And again, lack of education. When we travel to another countries,we can use public restrooms with no problem. But someone will justify the dirty bathrooms by "large number of the population".

From my point of view there are no public or private places in China: you just do it what you want, when you want and where do you want.

I can understand (sometimes) when little kids are peeing on the street, specially when they are learning how to control everything, but inside public spaces is inexpicable.

21 Aug 2012


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